Smashing Security podcast #002: ‘Invest in carrier pigeons’

Three security industry veterans, chatting live about whatever is on their mind.

Smashing Security #002: "Invest in carrier pigeons"

Join me and fellow computer security industry veterans Vanja Svajcer and Carole Theriault as we have another casual video chat about whatever is on our minds. You can either watch the video, or listen to the podcast.

Smashing Security #002: 'Invest in carrier pigeons'

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This week, in Smashing Security #002: “Invest in carrier pigeons”, we discuss Donald Trump’s views on cybersecurity and his radical explanation of how to keep communications top secret, Ukrainian soldiers being spied upon by Android malware, and an artist who has devised a novel way of avoiding facial recognition technology.

All this, and an unplanned appearance by an invisible dog.

Hope you enjoy the show, and tell us what you think! You can follow the Smashing Security team at @SmashinSecurity on Twitter.

Show notes

Graham Cluley is an award-winning keynote speaker who has given presentations around the world about cybersecurity, hackers, and online privacy. A veteran of the computer security industry since the early 1990s, he wrote the first ever version of Dr Solomon's Anti-Virus Toolkit for Windows, makes regular media appearances, and is the co-host of the popular "Smashing Security" podcast. Follow him on Twitter, Mastodon, Threads, Bluesky, or drop him an email.

8 comments on “Smashing Security podcast #002: ‘Invest in carrier pigeons’”

  1. Ken Grayling

    Carrier Pigeons! Hasn't The Donald heard of drones?

  2. Bob

    I enjoy these videos but the bad audio quality makes them difficult to listen to.

    I assume you're using Google Hangouts and I appreciate that the other two speakers are not in the UK but the echo makes the whole audio track gnarly to the ear. Your voice Graham sounds crystal clear.

    If Skype, FaceTime and other services are equally poor then perhaps if one person waited for the other to finish (I don't know whether delay makes this impracticable) the quality would improve. It seems that when people talk over each other the echo is exacerbated by the audio feedback and compression.

    1. Graham CluleyGraham Cluley · in reply to Bob

      Thanks for bringing that to my attention Bob. I haven't heard from anyone else yet who is having problems with the audio, but that doesn't mean that it can't be improved.

      We'll look into different ways that we can make it better, and I know there are plans afoot for an audio-only version for podcast fanatics who don't need to see our ugly mugs.

      BTW, I'm imagining that the reason that I'm crystal clear and the other two are hard to decipher is because I'm the only one without an accent.

      1. Melissa · in reply to Graham Cluley

        I too find the audio sketchy at times. The Christmas video was especially bad, it sounded like you were making a transatlantic call on a pre-digital cordless phone :-D

        I don't think there's much that can be done to improve the quality unless all parties have fast, stable connections.

        I had figured the reason Graham's voice was so clear was because he was recording himself and then overlaying the live streams.

        1. Graham CluleyGraham Cluley · in reply to Melissa

          It was all recorded through Google Hangouts. There was no post-production by us or any overlaying or editing (as if we would attempt anything so slick!). So it’s Google taking our audio streams live via Hangouts and shoving them into a YouTube video.

          Since recording the Christmas episode, Vanja has switched to a better microphone (and a better webcam).

          It’s odd that some people are hearing such poor sound and others don’t seem to be troubled – I think a transatlantic 1980s phone call would sound pretty bad too.

          Anyway, thanks for letting me know and we will explore further. Please don’t let it put you off too much!

          1. Bob · in reply to Graham Cluley

            I normally listen with my Bose external speakers as I tend to only listen to the audio (i.e. I don't watch the video) whilst I'm getting on with some work.

            Maybe it's because my speakers are good* and highlight the imperfections or it could be that I have good hearing and am more attuned than most.

            * I did stream it to my TV from my computer to test this theory but the result was replicated – probably because the speakers are reasonably good. I also watched it on my phone without headphones and it sounded better because the audio wasn't as crisp.

            I'll watch the next episode and see what that's like. For what it's worth I watched the video in 720p48.

          2. Graham CluleyGraham Cluley · in reply to Bob

            Thanks for the additional information. We'll look into it and see what we can do to make things better.

  3. Katie

    Re privacy: I went from Windows 7 to 10 last summer, and was shocked by the super aggressive demands from Microsoft to know all my data, study my writing patterns, etc. Many people are not able to try to protect themselves from the spies and/or marketers (is there a difference???).

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