Career Notes podcast – Have to be able to communicate to everybody

Career Notes podcast - Have to be able to communicate to everybody

The folks behind The Cyberwire podcast interviewed me for a new series of shows, looking at how people joined the cybersecurity industry.

The idea behind the short-form “Career Notes” podcast is to “step inside the diverse and fascinating worlds of cybersecurity professionals around the globe and hear their personal stories in their own words.”

Well, I’m not sure if my story is fascinating, but here is how “Career Notes” described my episode:

Computer security writer, podcaster and public speaker Graham Cluley describes learning to program on his own from magazines, creating text adventure games for donations, and his journey from programming to presenting and writing with a bit of tap dancing on the side. Along the way, Graham collaborated with others and learned to communicate so that all could understand, not just techies.

It’s not a very long podcast (less than 10 minutes). You can listen to it here:

Career Notes episode 7: Have to be able to communicate to everybody

Thanks to The Cyberwire for inviting me onto the show.

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Graham Cluley is an award-winning keynote speaker who has given presentations around the world about cybersecurity, hackers, and online privacy. A veteran of the computer security industry since the early 1990s, he wrote the first ever version of Dr Solomon's Anti-Virus Toolkit for Windows, makes regular media appearances, and is the co-host of the popular "Smashing Security" podcast. Follow him on Twitter, Mastodon, Threads, Bluesky, or drop him an email.

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