Podcast: Defeating hackers is hard


When I was at the RSA show in San Francisco last month I had the opportunity to spend a little time with Robert Westervelt, news editor at SearchSecurity.com.

Below you’ll find a podcast we recorded where Rob lets me ramble on about the anti-virus industry, the threat landscape, the Conficker worm and why it’s a struggle to bring international cybercriminal gangs to justice.

Rob had a cameraman with him, but I haven’t seen the video of our conversation yet. If it does show up, I’ll try and embed it here on the website too.


Graham Cluley is an award-winning keynote speaker who has given presentations around the world about cybersecurity, hackers, and online privacy. A veteran of the computer security industry since the early 1990s, he wrote the first ever version of Dr Solomon's Anti-Virus Toolkit for Windows, makes regular media appearances, and hosts the popular "Smashing Security" podcast. Follow him on LinkedIn, Bluesky and Mastodon, or drop him an email.

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