How to set up your Facebook privacy settings

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Addressing a packed crowd at the Facebook F8 conference six years ago, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg set out his vision for a new age of online interaction.

More than one billion people actively use Facebook each month.

Put that into perspective – an online social network that comprises one in seven of the world’s entire population. For better or for worse, it seems Zuckerberg’s plan has come to fruition: “the default is now social”.

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It’s quite rare to find a person nowadays that doesn’t use Facebook to share news, updates and friends’ night out pics on a regular basis. That’s all well and good, but are you really aware of who’s viewing your posts?

While Facebook’s comprehensive collection of privacy settings might sound inviting on paper, your options seem to change every day. For this reason, getting your privacy under control – for good – has become increasingly difficult.

What’s more, you may presume you’ve got your settings locked down, but you might want to double check: you’d be surprised what other people can discover.

First of all, we’ll take a look at an overview of each area. Next, we’ll step through the fundamental options that determine who sees what, before finishing up with a review of the controls you’ll want to tweak for maximum privacy.

One small tip before we get started – I would recommend following this guide from your desktop computer, for the time being. Your mileage may vary on Facebook’s mobile and tablet sites.


The Nerve Centre: Privacy Settings and Tools

Let’s jump right in: look for the padlock icon on the top-bar, and click it to bring down the “Privacy Shortcuts” menu. Notice that Facebook now provides quick access to three of the most important settings here, but for now, we’re going to visit See More Settings.

Facebook privacy button

If you’ve given the labyrinth that is Facebook’s user settings a once-over before, you may already know that related settings are spread across several areas. For this reason, we’re going to look through each area in turn.

In “Privacy Settings and Tools,” Facebook provide you with options for controlling who can see your stuff, contact you and look you up.

Facebook privacy tools

If you’re under 18, you may be informed that “[Facebook] take extra steps to protect your information” – this means that the defaults for some settings may be already be configured for a higher level of privacy.

The first option, “Who can see my future posts?,” can be used to set a default audience for new status updates and content in the future. By audience, I’m talking about common groups such as “Friends of Friends” or “Public.”

Facebook audience selector

However, it’s important to clarify that this does not work retrospectively. Posts from several months or years ago won’t be updated, but set this one to Friends to be on the safe side.

Review all your posts and things you’re tagged in is a special option – taking you to the Activity Log screen.

Facebook activity log

Here, you can peruse a past account of all the content you’ve been involved with. In some cases, you may have been tagged in a post – showing how your digital footprint isn’t always under your control!

We’ll come back to the Activity Log in the next section.

Limit The Audience for Old Posts on Your Timeline, also has a particularly sweeping effect. Clicking “Limit Old Posts” will change the audience of anything you’ve shared with Friends of Friends or the Public to Friends only.

Include Public as an option in your audience selector?” is a one-time choice – enabling this option will add “Public” to your list of audiences. In my experience, once you’ve switched this on, it can’t be turned back off.

In terms of “who can send you friend requests”, choose Friends of Friends if you’re concerned about unknown invitations or solicitations. Otherwise, stick with Everyone.

The next two settings apply to people who can’t already view your email address and phone number, respectively. Ideally, set both of these “who can look you up” options to Friends to prevent data leakage.

The final – and rather important – option in this section, involves having your Facebook profile indexed by search engines. Unless your profile is well-known in the public eye, I’d ensure this setting is disabled.

Timeline and Tagging

We’re now going to take a look at settings specifically related to friends’ interactions with your Timeline, so click “Timeline and Tagging” in the sidebar.

Timeline and tagging

This section involves the media and posts that other people link you to, rather than the content you create yourself.

Notice the first setting – “Who can add things to my timeline?” – this gives you the ability to control whether anyone else can post on your Timeline at all. Select Only Me if you wish to prevent Friends from posting on the feed.

The next option is “Who can see things on my timeline?”, which offers a link entitled “View As”.

View as

This helpful feature lets you see what your Timeline looks like to the public or a particular friend. Upon clicking on View As, you’ll be presented with a Public view of the profile.

If you’re interested in seeing what a particular person views when they visit your profile, type their name into the selector.

It’s important to mention – Facebook advises you to “keep in mind that posts and photos you’ve hidden on your Timeline are still visible to the [people] they’re shared with [elsewhere], like in News Feed and search.”

Moving on, the next two options give you access to a more granular – or specific – range of audience selectors. “Who can see posts you’ve been tagged in on your timeline?” and “Who can see what others post on your timeline?” speak for themselves: these options let you control which groups can view mutual content.

If you’re concerned about strangers or acquaintances viewing these posts, consider opting for Friends except Acquaintances or Only Me for maximum privacy.

Facebook only me

The next sub-section talks about “managing tags” and “tagging suggestions.” In clearer terms, we’re talking about the “Kate tagged you in an album” or “Michael tagged you in a post” notifications here.

Facebook tag review

I would recommend ensuring the Tag Review feature is set to enabled – which is where Activity Log returns to the spotlight.

Within the Activity Log is the home of Tag Review itself; here you’ll be presented with any content that friends have tagged you in. You’ll have the option to approve or reject these posts individually.

Facebook tag screen

When you’re tagged in a post, who do you want to add to the audience if they aren’t already in it?” is a rather cryptic, standalone option.

Imagine you’re tagged in an old school friend’s status update, but some of your friends don’t know them on Facebook. Setting this option to Friends, or another audience, allows you to share these posts with additional groups.

Finally, there’s tag suggestions. As a minor, this option is “Unavailable” to me – although I’d definitely recommend disabling it if you have the choice. If you leave this option enabled, Facebook will use your face and account in other people’s suggested tags.

Blocks, Apps and Ads

You may be in a situation where blocking a person is the most appropriate option. If you’re interested, look for the Blocking option on the sidebar.

As described, “once you block someone [completely,] that person can no longer see things you post on your timeline, tag you, invite you to events or groups, start a conversation with you, or add you as a friend.”

Instead of a “full block,” you can also choose to just block messages, app invites or event invites from particular friends.

Games and apps are hailed as a deeply integrated part of the Facebook Platform – but, to you and I, are unnecessary annoyances on the social network. You’ll see what I mean in just a second.

From the sidebar, visit the Apps section. These settings pose an unsettling risk to your privacy; the Platform itself involves Facebook “receiving information about your use of third party apps and websites.”

Look for the first heading, “Apps, Websites and Plugins”, and click Edit. I’d strongly advise clicking Disable Platform unless you’ve got a particular need for these features.

Platform off

Next, look for the “Apps Others Use” heading and click Edit. This feature claims to make your Facebook experience “better and more social” – I’d recommend un-ticking every checkbox.

Apps others use

We’re about to wrap things up, but there are still a couple more settings to look through. The “Old Versions of Facebook for Mobile” option applies to older Facebook clients (e.g. on BlackBerry devices), which do not have the new audience selector feature.

Finally, let’s take a quick glance at the Ads section. Due to European behavioural advertising laws, this option may differ from country to country.

Social actions

At the end of the day, you can improve your privacy by disabling or unchecking anything related to personalisation, interest or social actions.

Taking the above steps will help make your Facebook experience safer and more private, but don’t forget that history has shown that the social network has a habit of rolling-out changes to its privacy settings and introducing new features which may make you less protected online.

Make sure to keep informed of the latest changes, and review your privacy settings regularly.

If you are on Facebook, and want to be kept updated with news about security and privacy risks, and tips on how to protect yourself online, join the Graham Cluley Security News Facebook page.


If you’re thinking of leaving Facebook, why not listen to this “Smashing Security” podcast we recorded:

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075: Quitting Facebook

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MARIA VARMAZIS
I then deleted my Facebook account and then re-upped it in 2005 and have not been able to get off the stupid thing since. So I am a super—
CAROLE THERIAULT
So why can't you get off? What are your— You guys!
MARIA VARMAZIS
It's not that kind of podcast.
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Smashing Security, episode 75: Quitting Facebook with Carole Theriault and Graham Cluley. Graham Cluley. Hello, hello, and welcome to Smashing Security episode 75.

My name is Graham Cluley.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I'm Carole Theriault.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And we're joined this week by a returning guest, Maria Varmazis. Hello, Maria.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Hi. Hello, Maria.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Hello.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Hi, everyone.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Are you all right? You sound a little bit tired.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I'm just a little sleepy. It's all good.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Oh, do we bore you? Is that what's going on?
MARIA VARMAZIS
So tedious.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yawn.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, I'll be okay. My energy will get up. I just had a late night due to baby stuff. So I'll be okay. I'll be all right.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Because you've got a baby. It's not that you're trying to have another baby. Or you haven't given birth overnight, have you? That would not be a good reason to.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Oh no, my uterus is not that uber. No.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Do Uber do uteruses now? Is that what you just said?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, you didn't know Uber for uteruses? It's a thing.
GRAHAM CLULEY
What?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Copyright Maria Varmazis, please don't pitch that. That's mine. It's my retirement plan.
GRAHAM CLULEY
This is a special Splintergun Logical— no, it isn't. It's a special Splinter episode all about quitting Facebook. That's all we're going to talk about.

We are going to discuss whether you should quit Facebook.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yes, you should.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And how you can quit Facebook right after our sponsor break.
CAROLE THERIAULT
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GRAHAM CLULEY
Yeah, exactly. So are we all on Facebook?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yep. Well, no.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Well, I don't know. I'm deactivated on Facebook, which I understand to be that I am still lurking on there but not locatable.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Oh, okay. So if I go onto Facebook right now, let's open a little window right now. Excuse my typing here. And I enter Carole Theriault into the search.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah, do vomit on my name because that's so nice of you.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And— oh no, there are other Carole Theriault there, but there's not you.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Can we be sure?
CAROLE THERIAULT
So this basically means— I don't know what it means. What if we were friends? Were we friends on the Facebook?

Does it say anything in your feed that I've disappeared, or have I just kind of gone away?
GRAHAM CLULEY
You don't appear, and we were Facebook friends. I remember that. Unless you unfriended me. And so I've received no notification that you deactivated.

You just disappeared into the mist.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Okay, that's good. So it's not that anyone feels dissed by me. Like, Carole left you.
MARIA VARMAZIS
It's not like AOL Instant Messenger where you hear the door close sound or ICQ where it went "uh-oh," or whatever. Anyway, sorry.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I'm pissed because I was on Facebook, but I was on it quite responsibly.

If you remember, Graham, we did a lot of Facebook security training very early on in Facebook's birth and its growth.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Sounds like a disease.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I never got apps. I never played Facebook apps. I didn't share any pictures. I didn't like people posting pictures of me.

And still my data could be compromised simply because I was friends with people that may not have been as privacy aware as me. Actually, it probably wouldn't have mattered.

Someone somewhere downloaded some game that hoovered up all my data.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So yeah, I mean, I know you've had a Facebook account for a long time. In fact, Carole, it was you who got me onto Facebook way back when. I think maybe because you are Canadian.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I did hear about it early because everyone, a lot of people at my university.
GRAHAM CLULEY
That was it.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah. And Canada was quite an early adopter of Facebook.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Well, back then is when it was universities only. It was only for certain colleges in the US. That's when I joined, when it was still in beta.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Oh, well, aren't you cool? Well, thank you very much, Maria, because thanks to people like you, we're in this mess.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I'm a Facebook hipster. I then deleted my Facebook account and then re-upped it in 2005 and have not been able to get off the stupid thing since. So I am a super—
CAROLE THERIAULT
So why can't you get off? What are your— You guys, the sun is still shining in all our time zones.
GRAHAM CLULEY
For a while, Carole has been wanting to have an agony aunt section on the show. So let's talk about this. Why can't you get off Facebook?
CAROLE THERIAULT
Facebook.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Why can't I quit Facebook? Why can't you quit Facebook? Otherwise it's not that kind of podcast. Well, is it?
CAROLE THERIAULT
No.
MARIA VARMAZIS
It's, I hate Facebook and I can't quit it. And I feel like everyone else I know on Facebook feels exactly the same way with the exclusion of old people who just adore it.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Okay, but why?
GRAHAM CLULEY
I'll tell you why. Because people don't like to miss out.
MARIA VARMAZIS
It's formal.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Because their friends are there, or because you have family who are distant. And it's a really easy and lazy way of continuing to feel connected with people.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I can tell you, I've seen so many times people doing the, "I'm just taking a step away from Facebook," or, "I'm temporarily deleting my account," and then a week later, a month later, the person is inevitably back because their social life completely dies.

You don't know what events are going on, you forget somebody's birthday, nobody wants to email you anymore, nobody answers the phone anymore.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Is that what's wrong with my life?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Have you noticed that you have no friends? Because this might be why.
CAROLE THERIAULT
No, no, I have too many to even look after.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Oh well, la-dee-da.
CAROLE THERIAULT
And they're real friends, you know, from real life.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I feel like you're a corner case though.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah, maybe. Or a lucky one.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, your friends keep in touch outside of Facebook and you hate Facebook and deleting it will be super easy for you.

Whereas for a lot of us who want to quit Facebook, it's like, well, we will literally have no way to keep in touch with people.
GRAHAM CLULEY
The thing is, it's so much easier to click the like button on someone's Facebook update than it is to pick up the phone.
MARIA VARMAZIS
That's so true.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Isn't it? And say, hey, how are you? And you feel like, oh, I've done that now.

And they'll see a little, oh look, they said they like the picture of my child or whatever it was, or the holiday I'm on. That's nice. And you continue to feel connected.
MARIA VARMAZIS
And you get that little adrenaline rush, right? Or whatever, dopamine rush.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And from that point of view, I think Facebook's pretty good.

What I don't like is that people, of course, give this curated image of themselves on social networks, you know, where they're, "Oh, aren't I fantastic?

Look at me, I'm doing my warrior pose at the yoga." That's like the max of your familiarity with yoga. I'm doing my sun salutation.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Me having yet another amazing day out with my amazing friends.
MARIA VARMAZIS
What you don't typically do is you don't post up things saying, "Oh God, I hate my life." Yeah, because if you do that, everybody's going to be like, 'Are you okay?' Or, 'Oh, they're such a drama queen.' So you can't do that either.
CAROLE THERIAULT
You can't be keeping it real because then you feel like I'm totally missed out. Now tell me, did you use your Facebook login?

Because you could use Facebook to log into other apps, right?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, I did.
CAROLE THERIAULT
And is that another reason why it's hard to walk away?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yes.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Or that's not the leading reason? Or is that the leading reason?
MARIA VARMAZIS
It's not the leading reason, but it's extremely annoying.

I'm a Spotify user, and it's one of the many apps where you can create your account just by saying, just create your account with Facebook. You just click this button.

It's super easy. And I did that. And there's no way for me to easily disassociate my account without literally deleting my old account and creating a new one.

And then I'll lose my playlists and my albums. I have to recreate all that stuff I've done.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And at the time, a lot of people created these accounts on third-party sites using the Facebook login process because they thought, well, this is perhaps more secure because I don't have to remember different passwords.

I don't have to generate passwords. Facebook's going to handle it.

And this site which I'm signing up for, I don't have to worry about them looking after my password because they're using the whole Facebook process instead.

So I think this is a really valuable thing for people to remember if they are considering quitting Facebook is what the impact will be on any other apps and websites which might be—
CAROLE THERIAULT
Suck it up, get off Facebook.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Well, yes, I agree with that. So here's my first reason why I think you should leave Facebook.

The way you can convince yourself that you've shared too much information on Facebook is to download a copy of your Facebook data, right?

There is a link, and we will put it in the show notes, which you can go to on Facebook. And regardless of whether you plan to quit or not, download your data.

It will download all the photos that you've posted and all the messages and all kinds of other stuff as well. You will be horrified.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Most people will be stunned at just how much information they have given over the years, because many people will have been on the site for years and years and years.

And at that point, you begin to think, crikey, I volunteered so much information, information which I would never have given to a phishing site, information I would never have given to some scammer or fraudster ringing up on the phone.

I have willingly given to Mark Zuckerberg and his cronies, and what on earth are they planning to do?
CAROLE THERIAULT
And then you realize how come all the ads are so perfectly targeted to your insecurities on the site, right?
GRAHAM CLULEY
Right, because they've learned all about you and the groups that you've liked and the things which you've given a thumbs up to, or the—
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah, you should go on. I bet, Maria, if you go on right now, there'll be ads for caffeine or Red Bull ads to gee you up.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I'm weird. I don't actually post much personal stuff on Facebook. I post political things and memes. I don't post about my life. I don't post about my family.

I'm a little weird in how I use Facebook.
GRAHAM CLULEY
All right. We've all had a good whinge about Facebook. Let's tell our glorious audience different ways in which they can quit Facebook.

And I'm going to start off with the simplest thing you can do, which is not a complete cutoff, but it is called turning off the Facebook platform.

That is the thing which basically Facebook uses to integrate you with third-party apps and websites.

It's the thing which powers the like buttons which appear on third-party sites, which can of course track you around the internet, which isn't terribly nice either.
CAROLE THERIAULT
So this is different from deactivating your account?
GRAHAM CLULEY
It is. This is a different level. This is turning off the level one, what we call Facebook platform. Yeah.

And this is the thing which was exploited by Cambridge Analytica's app, or the app which gave them the data, which allowed, for instance, your friends to give your information to other people as well.

So this is— if you're not ready to leave Facebook for whatever reason, you might want to consider turning off the Facebook platform.

So we're going to include a link where you can do that.

It's deep within the settings, and what it will mean is that all posts by apps and games and things like that will be removed from your timeline.

You won't be able to log into apps or games and websites using Facebook. Oh, wow, I live.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I just did it.
GRAHAM CLULEY
How will Maria get her Spotify playlists?
MARIA VARMAZIS
I just tried it, and now I'm really curious how broken my Spotify account is. But I just did it. I actually didn't know that. Good job.
GRAHAM CLULEY
You can always turn it on back again, you know, if you need to temporarily. You're also going to lose other information like your high scores in games and your favourite places.

Oh, diddums. Oh dear, you've lost all that. But that is the most private I think you can really make Facebook without deleting the account altogether.

So there you are, disable Facebook platform.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Is this a new feature that they've put out?
GRAHAM CLULEY
Nope, this has been around for some time. It's just been hidden deep, deep down in the settings, and so most people never ever find out about it.
CAROLE THERIAULT
That pisses me off as well. I was trying to permanently delete my account originally, and I found it so difficult to find the information that I ended up just deactivating.
GRAHAM CLULEY
You need to listen to this podcast.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Tell me, but I'm going to shut up right now.
MARIA VARMAZIS
You take the floor.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So the next step is doing what Carole has done, which is deactivating the account. So you can deactivate your Facebook account temporarily and choose to come back whenever you like.

Yippee, right? When you change your mind. So at the moment, you won't find Carole on Facebook. Carole could log back in if she wanted to, but right now, no one can see your profile.

No one can search for you.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I'll tell you one thing that's a bit annoying about the deactivating your account bit. So you deactivate it, and then of course you kind of want to check to see if you're not on it.

And as soon as you log in, if you're using a password manager, it obviously just fills in the login page as you get there.

And bish bash bosh, you gotta do the whole deactivation again. So you can't get a friend to look to see if you've been removed.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Well, so what you need to do is you need to create a second account purely for testing if the other one exists.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I just got off it 'cause I don't want to be anywhere near it.
MARIA VARMAZIS
That's crazy.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Well, Facebook shareholders are gonna love this, Carole. How are they gonna get to 3 billion users?
CAROLE THERIAULT
I've got friends. Maria, I'll call you. You're not getting off anytime soon. I'll just go, hey, Maria.
MARIA VARMAZIS
All right. We got to use a different phrase.
CAROLE THERIAULT
What different phrase?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Quitting Facebook.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Oh, getting off.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I actually, I have, I actually have two Facebook accounts. Yeah. And I know I have three. Yeah. I have a bunch that I use for testing stuff. It's terrible.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Anyway.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So you can do that if you want to. Right now, once you've deactivated some information, like messages you sent to friends, they're still probably going to be visible.

Okay, so you don't clean up everything which you posted around the place. Your friends may even still see your name in their friends list, but it won't go any further beyond that.

But also keep in mind that if you deactivate your Facebook account, your Messenger account, which is like their IM system, that will remain active.

So disabling Facebook Messenger is a whole separate thing.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me make a note. Because you can actually use Facebook Messenger without, I think, a Facebook account.

Now, I don't know if that's 100% true, but I know of some people who said they've sort of either deactivated or deleted their account, maybe just deactivated.
GRAHAM CLULEY
I don't know. Certainly with a deactivated account, it appears that Facebook Messenger continues.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah.
MARIA VARMAZIS
That seems very much by design. You know, there are sort of third-party options that you can use that are sort of an in-between the deactivating and the restricting.

Have you heard about the Firefox extension that puts Facebook in its own little container tab?
CAROLE THERIAULT
Oh no, tell me, tell me.
MARIA VARMAZIS
So basically, if you're not ready to even go as far as deactivating, but you want to just really, really slap the hand on Facebook and say, you need to stop talking to all the other websites I go to, there's a Firefox extension that you can install that will make sure that if you're in Facebook, Facebook can only talk to a Facebook page and it will not start sniffing around the other pages that you're visiting.
GRAHAM CLULEY
The way they describe it, it sort of isolates your Facebook identity from the rest of the web, which does mean that all of those like buttons, which are distributed so far and wide across the internet, won't be able to communicate back.

They won't know that you're logged into Facebook as well.
CAROLE THERIAULT
So I hate to ask this, Maria, but how do you know that this is a trusted plugin?
MARIA VARMAZIS
It's actually created by Mozilla. Yeah, that's a very good question. But yeah, Mozilla actually created this.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So it's called Facebook Container. Cool.

Now I don't use—I use Firefox regularly, but one of the things that I've done is I've updated my ad blocker with specific code and rules which block any like buttons from working on pages when I visit them, because I don't want Facebook knowing which pages that I'm going to and gathering data about my movements around the internet if I do accidentally leave myself logged into Facebook.

And that's something else which you can do with a blocker as well. But this is all kind of really nitty-gritty advice.

I think maybe the push for this podcast is how are you going to stop giving any data to Zuckerberg?

So right after this sponsor break, we're going to talk about how you can actually delete your Facebook account entirely.
CAROLE THERIAULT
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GRAHAM CLULEY
So let's go nuclear now.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Finally.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And let's permanently delete our account. So I've put the link in the show notes. We can find out where to do this at facebook.com/help/delete_account.

Pretty hidden away, to be honest. You have to go hunting for it if you do want to do it.

And you will get this big fat warning says if you don't think you're going to use Facebook again and would really like your account deleted. We can take care of this for you.

Bear in mind, you will not be able to reactivate your account. So really, they want you to deactivate rather than delete your account.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Exactly.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I'm falling into their trap by just being deactivated rather than deleted. So I have no qualms about getting off. All the reasons you guys gave don't hold any water with me.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I think you're really lucky. I mean, you never really got—Smart, Maria.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Brainy.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Very smart. You saw this problem coming a mile away. I mean, you were able to not get tangled up in all of this, but a lot of us are, and it's—I wish I could just hit delete.

I really wish I could.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I promise you'll survive if you do it.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Oh, I know I will. I just will never ever know what's going on in my social group ever again.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Just take up another habit like crystal meth. No, come on.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Probably takes less time than Facebook.
MARIA VARMAZIS
My skin might suffer a little bit.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So girls, what do you think happens when you press the delete my account button?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure?
CAROLE THERIAULT
Are you really, really sure?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Please, please don't kill us. Please, please.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Here's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg's dog. Isn't it cute? Why don't you friend that? No. What it actually does is nothing.

Does nothing for a few days because it's given you a chance to change your mind.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Of course. So they say psychological warfare.
GRAHAM CLULEY
We will delay deletion of your account for a few days. So you have that instant regret. Oh, should I really have done that? Maybe I shouldn't. I wonder what I'm missing.

Because that evening you're thinking, I wonder if anyone's posted any funny cat memes.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Your grandma calls you up, "You did what? How am I gonna share my favorite do you remember from the 1920s memes?"
CAROLE THERIAULT
Is that what your granny voice sounds like?
GRAHAM CLULEY
If you try and log back into your Facebook account after pressing that delete button in the first few days, it's gonna be like you deactivated it.

Your request is cancelled, yippee, and your account is back. And Facebook says it can take up to 90 days, up to 3 months to delete data they may have stored in their backup systems.

But it says during that time, your information isn't available on Facebook publicly.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I think that's the length of time that addicts are often told— that's the first phase of being clean is 3 months. So that's interesting.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Now, the other thing is that some information isn't actually stored in your account, which means that you're not going to delete everything.

If you've been communicating, if you've been sending messages to friends and things, they're still going to have those messages in their inboxes.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah, it doesn't scrub their account.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Exactly.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Unless you're Mark Zuckerberg, and then you can have your messages mysteriously disappear.
GRAHAM CLULEY
He did do that.
MARIA VARMAZIS
He did. But we can't have that capability now.
GRAHAM CLULEY
It was the equivalent of you, Crow. Do you remember, Crow, when you sent some— I think you replied to all something not entirely appropriate.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I was telling someone off, wasn't I?
MARIA VARMAZIS
How do I retract that email?
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yes, I yanked the cable out of the back of the computer. This was before Wi-Fi. I don't know what I'd do now.
GRAHAM CLULEY
It was that Terminator 2 moment.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Throw yourself across the desk. And Graham was like, what are you doing? And I'm like, nothing. But I saved it. It didn't go. I don't know how I managed it.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So that is how you do it. We've put the link in there and that will delete your account.

And the thing is, whatever privacy steps you take, even if shutting down platform and things like that, if you continue to have a Facebook account, you're still sharing information with Facebook.

And you have to ask yourself, do you trust this organization with your information?
CAROLE THERIAULT
And I do 100%.
GRAHAM CLULEY
You do?
CAROLE THERIAULT
100%.
MARIA VARMAZIS
That has been extremely clear from this entire podcast.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And think about how much time you're going to— extra time you're going to get back in your life because you're not constantly checking Facebook.

You'll probably go on to some other social network instead.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, I've got TweetDeck open.
GRAHAM CLULEY
I mean, so I think I'm going to delete my account. Right.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Are you?
GRAHAM CLULEY
I have deleted it before.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I know.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And what happened with me was about 5 years ago, I started working for myself and I thought I should really probably have a Facebook account because I need to promote, well, the podcast and need to promote the blog and things like that.

Right. And so I started creating the community. Now I closed down my blog page. I told them I'm not going to update it anymore and it's going to be deleted.

Carole, what we haven't discussed is what should we do about the Smashing Security Facebook group?
MARIA VARMAZIS
I was just going to ask about that. Yeah.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I've never been on it.
GRAHAM CLULEY
No, I've noticed that.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Of course you haven't.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I haven't been on it. So, you know, I love that they're there, but I'm not going to miss them. Well, I say, you know, get in touch via old school methods. Send me a letter.

Handwritten letter.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Postcard campaign for Smashing Security.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Exactly. Postcards.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Carole, this is our fan base.

Right now, the one thing that is stopping me from deleting my personal account is that it is the administrator for our Smashing Security Facebook group.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I don't care.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Really?
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Wow.
CAROLE THERIAULT
This is your— you're— you're—
GRAHAM CLULEY
I—
CAROLE THERIAULT
Hey, I love Smashing Security. I am not— I am not—
GRAHAM CLULEY
What's Angelina going to say?
MARIA VARMAZIS
I'm just reading the group chat.
GRAHAM CLULEY
What are they gonna do? We've got some people who love us up there, Carole.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Well, they can love us. Why does that stop them loving us?
GRAHAM CLULEY
Hang on, Andrew Angelina. Geoff.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Oh good, that's good. That's good GDPR practice. Read all their full names off on the air.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Oh, I'm gonna have to get the bleeper out, am I?
GRAHAM CLULEY
Tony. Bronwyn.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Rik Astley.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Let's just, you know what, let's just look right now. I'm sure I have a lighter or a match somewhere in the house near the barbecue.

I am gonna hold up a little flame for all our Facebook fans.
GRAHAM CLULEY
And when you find yourself on dodgy networks, doo doo doo, we're going to press delete. Okay. So we're going to kill off the Smashing Security Facebook group. Oh no!
CAROLE THERIAULT
Wow.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Because we don't want to give anybody another reason to stay on Facebook, right?

I'm sure we're not the only reason they're on Facebook, but why should we make it— I'm pretty damn sure that's not the case.

Why should we add to the difficulty of quitting the addiction?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah. Confession time. You are the only reason I am still on Facebook.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Ignore everything else I've said.
MARIA VARMAZIS
In this podcast. That's actually the reason.
GRAHAM CLULEY
So we're going to go through this process. First of all, we're going to download our data.

We're going to check that we don't have any websites or third-party apps which are associated with our Facebook login.

And if they are, we'll recreate accounts on those sites without using Facebook logins. Okay. Or we just ditch the apps because what are they thinking?

And we'll zap the Smashing Security Facebook group. Sorry guys. Thank you for all the support. Go and join us on Twitter.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, on Twitter instead. Yeah.
CAROLE THERIAULT
So much better.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Well, that's the question. Now, what's the alternative? Is there anything like Facebook which we actually like? I don't know that there is.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I mean, a lot of people say go to Instagram, but that's owned by Facebook.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Well, yeah, exactly.
MARIA VARMAZIS
That's where all the younger folks tend to be at, and that's— it's owned by Facebook. So, you know, the exit is right there.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I say go old school. Go old school. Send an ad in the paper, Graham.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I will get on my donkey and I will ride over and I'll talk to you in person. It'll be about 3 months till I get there because I have to take a boat.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Why don't you start doing a town crier thing in the city?
MARIA VARMAZIS
That's probably great.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah, and Maria would be amazing.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Oh my God, I could do it.
CAROLE THERIAULT
You could.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I think my main qualm is that it's super easy to quit Facebook if you never really use it to begin with, but if you're really, really in, you have to sort of take baby steps to cut off your addiction.
GRAHAM CLULEY
I think that may be sensible advice because otherwise you'll just jump back in again.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah, it's too hard to go—
CAROLE THERIAULT
You guys with your addiction advice.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Well, I mean, okay, so here's what I like.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Cheese sandwiches, find them hard to stop.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Yeah, do you, what do you do? Do it cold turkey when you decide to give them up, or do you just—
GRAHAM CLULEY
I love me a turkey sandwich with some salt.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Now you're talking.
MARIA VARMAZIS
One thing you— so for Facebook, legitimately get rid of the app on your phone first. That seems to be the first thing to try. That's what I did about a year ago.

That helped me a lot.
GRAHAM CLULEY
That's a good idea.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Just get the phone app off your phone so it's not tracking your location at least, and only check in on a computer. It forces you to use it a lot less.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Yes.
MARIA VARMAZIS
And that will sort of force you to really, really slow down your Facebook use, and then you'll see, do you really need it?
GRAHAM CLULEY
I've just deleted my Facebook app on my phone.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Hallelujah!
MARIA VARMAZIS
That's how you start.
GRAHAM CLULEY
I think that is a fantastic first step. I will be deleting my account entirely. I will be posting up an apology to our Smashing Security listeners as to what's happening.

I'm sure they've listened to the podcast and know, well, I'm going to give them time just to deal with it.
MARIA VARMAZIS
And they may be catching up on past episodes. It takes us some time.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Yes.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah.
CAROLE THERIAULT
I'm sure they're going to care.
MARIA VARMAZIS
I mean, I'm behind by an episode or two, so, you know.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Well, that just about wraps it up for this special splinter episode of Smashing Security.

We'll be back next week with a regular episode, pick of the week and all the other goodies and a different guest.

But if you want to follow us in the meantime, you can join us on Twitter @SmashingSecurity. Security, no G, Twitter wouldn't let us have a G.

You can grab t-shirts and stickers and mugs and things like that at smashingsecurity.com/store.

And you can go to smashingsecurity.com for past episodes and for details on how to get in touch with us. Thanks for tuning in. Thank you, Maria, as well for joining us.

If you like the show, rate it on Apple Podcasts. It really does help new listeners discover us, which we like. Until next time, cheerio, bye.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Bye everyone! Bye!
GRAHAM CLULEY
Uber for uteri? Is it uteri rather than uterus?
CAROLE THERIAULT
No, it's not. Uteron? Vairi? Uterons? It's the same ending, same suffix. But—
MARIA VARMAZIS
Etymology.
GRAHAM CLULEY
But—
MARIA VARMAZIS
Yeah.
GRAHAM CLULEY
I see. I agree. We are speaking Greek, remember?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Dad, what's the answer? You know, I'm actually going to have a hard think about that one because I feel like I should know.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Maybe just ask Google during the show.
MARIA VARMAZIS
All right. It's really ridiculous.
GRAHAM CLULEY
Shall we move on?
MARIA VARMAZIS
Apparently it is uteri.
CAROLE THERIAULT
Right? I stand corrected.
MARIA VARMAZIS
Or uteruses. That might be the American influence because we don't know. Anywho.


Researcher at heart, Yasin Soliman lives and breathes information security. You can find him on Twitter at @SecurityYasin.

3 comments on “How to set up your Facebook privacy settings”

  1. Elaine

    Something has changed fairly recently on Facebook that means your privacy is not as secure as it used to be. If you "like" or comment on something, then all your friends see that post on their timeline. I am constantly seeing posts and photos from people I don't know, because one of my friends has interracted with it. Not only is it a breach of the privacy of the person who made the post – what is the point of marking it for friends only when it will be spread by the friends' comments? – but it also means my timeline gets cluttered with stuff that is of no interest to me.

    1. Tony · in reply to Elaine

      I agree, you summed it up perfectly. I don't want others to know whether I like (agree with ) a range of subjects and I am not interested in my friends or friends of friends opinion either. It is a breech of privacy for all concerned.

      This was the last straw that caused me to activate my account a week ago. I will leave my account deactivated for about a month before I decide on whether to delete it completely or reactivate. Facebook has become increasing irrelevant to me as well as being a bandwidth hog when using expensive mobile broadband.

  2. coyote

    'That's all well and good, but are you really aware of who's viewing your posts?'

    I bloody well better be since I am one of those who is supposedly more disconnected but actually more connected because I don't use Facebook.

    That out of the way. Now I see what people mean with their privacy issues being complicated. I'm thankful I don't have to read that entire wall of text for something that shouldn't be nearly as complicated as it apparently is. Not that it would take long to read but it's a lot more to read than should be needed.

    Of course, there is a final two-part step that everyone could take (but few would take especially for privacy alone): tighten everything up (for the final state just in case – as I suspect – they don't clean up completely after account deletion) and then delete your account. I don't see that happens and so this document is the next best alternative.

    Sharing this howto would be far better than much of the other rubbish being shared on Facebook. I suppose this is being linked/shared/whatever on the GC Facebook feed (or whatever it is called) ? I certainly hope so.

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